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9992. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 12/16/2005 5:41:37 PM 
Lieberman will get his; most everyone I know is silently fuming and looking for any viable alternative to run against him in the next primary. Moreover, the fair campaign law just passed here will help new political blood rather than the incumbent.
As for Yoo–the ambitious little prick should be working for the authoritarian Chinese in Nepal!
9993. jexster - 12/16/2005 6:17:16 PM For the Faux Libertarian and all other propeller heads..
FOURTH AMENDMENT
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. 9994. thoughtful - 12/16/2005 6:19:04 PM jex, you're obviously forgetting what our dear president said...the constitution is just a g.d. piece of paper. 9995. jexster - 12/16/2005 6:24:03 PM Woe to you Pharisees, hypocrites!
The President forgot what the Consitution says. I guess that makes us even. 9996. thoughtful - 12/16/2005 6:44:39 PM time for 9997. thoughtful - 12/16/2005 6:44:50 PM thoughtful 9998. thoughtful - 12/16/2005 6:44:57 PM to snag 9999. thoughtful - 12/16/2005 6:45:06 PM a millennial 10000. thoughtful - 12/16/2005 6:45:18 PM post. Huzzah! 10001. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 12/16/2005 6:56:08 PM 
10002. ronski - 12/16/2005 7:30:07 PM Alternate Universe 10003. thoughtful - 12/16/2005 7:58:50 PM thanks wiz! 10004. jexster - 12/16/2005 7:59:56 PM Iraq war makes US safer: US Defense Secretary Rumsfeld
Safer Today? By Jack Shanahan, VADM, USN (Ret.)
[dni - channel not on Ronksi's tin foil hat ] 10005. jexster - 12/16/2005 8:03:30 PM Bush Calls Criticism of War 'Irresponsible'
Not patriotic mein fuehrer!
We've heard that before too haven't we?
A man who says that no patriot should attack the war until it is over...is saying no good son should warn his mother of a cliff until she has fallen.
~G. K. Chesterton
10006. jexster - 12/16/2005 8:10:09 PM Icon of Disaster; The Big Lie in the War Built of Slogans and Lies
"When will Democrats stop dicking around and tell Bush he's lost his mind" Chris Mathews
Throughout the political coverage and chatter about Iraq, it seems there is a virulent assumption that has jumped from theory into fact, without even a shred of factual support. I'm not talking about there only being a small amount of proof - I'm talking about an assumption that is being made by "experts," "operatives" and the media analysts with literally absolutely no evidence at all. It is so egregious that to call it an assumption is to be dishonest - what it is is a lie.
Listen to today's NPR piece, and you will hear this assumption all the way through, from both politicians and political "experts." The assumption is simple: it basically states as fact that those who support an exit strategy in Iraq will not only be attacked as "cut and run" cowards (like the GOP attacked Jack Murtha), but that voters will give credence to those attacks. Put another way, the political Establishment - which prides itself on "expertly" reading public opinion data - is actually ignoring all the hard data and simply assuming that Americans will politically punish those who support a withdrawal. In the process, they are asserting as fact the concept that Republicans will be able to use the war as a political bludgeon - as a winning issue - when all the hard evidence says the exact opposite.
For misleading the American people, and launching the most foolish war since Emperor Augustus in 9 B.C sent his legions into Germany and lost them, Bush deserves to be impeached and, once he has been removed from office, put on trial along with the rest of the president's men. If convicted, they'll have plenty of time to mull over their sins.
Martin van Creveld
Professor of Military History
Hebrew University, Jerusalem
10007. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 12/16/2005 8:18:35 PM Ronski- The lack of originality in right wing commentary is so utterly obvious and tedious because it only regurgitates the Left's criticisms and ideas while melding it with the Rovian swill that true-believers like you have already swallowed. The "Alternate Universe" theme was used to describe the Bushie's denial of reality months ago and now recycled in Hanson's pathetic propaganda piece. 10008. jayackroyd - 12/16/2005 8:29:04 PM Ronski-
Thanks for posting this. This is a very typical conservative essay. It attributes a series of opinions to unnamed sources--even putting quotation marks around unattributed remarks. Then it refutes those caricatured opinions.
Take the opening sentence:For some time, a large number of Americans have lived in an alternate universe where everything is supposedly going to hell
That's hyperbolic nonsense. He talks about the red-hot economy, for instance. Nobody says that the economy isn't growing. The point that people like Krugman or Kevin Drum have been making is that people's compensation is flat to declining, between stagnant wages and declining benefits.
One thing that he says that I've actually read people saying is the accusation that Bush is in a bubble. In that case, isn't that a fair characterization of his presidency?
10009. jayackroyd - 12/16/2005 8:31:57 PM And Ronski, a question.
You're seriously good with the Bush presidency? You're satisfied with his performance? 10010. jexster - 12/16/2005 9:05:15 PM Senate Blocks Patriot Act
Ronski's dittohead Jay..you didn't know this?
Counterfeit as a $3 bill ..seriously fuckt up 10011. jexster - 12/16/2005 9:08:41 PM 
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